![]() ![]() In a scene from the cartoon “The Fairly OddParents,” Vicky, the evil babysitter, has a boyfriend named Ricky, who dumps her at the end of the episode. John Mulaney also happens to be a huge Steely Dan fan. I once spent hours locating a video clip in which Stephen Colbert announces, in a bit on “The Late Show,” that he knows the lyrics to every Steely Dan song. “Any Steely Dan come in?” the receptionists at a radio station ask in a Joan Didion essay. ID DONT WANT TO GROW UP SONG HOW TOI’m trying to focus on the muse, the thing he tapped into, and figure out how to celebrate that and avoid the pitfalls of romanticizing early tragic deaths.Whenever I see Steely Dan referenced anywhere, I experience a nonsensical jolt of recognition and identification, and never forget it. ![]() For me it’s been all encompassing - talking to people about what he left behind. I’ve been taking the time to become a steward of the music that he left. He came out of the gate so developed, to be cut short is just a really tragic thing to grapple with. I’ve been watching videos of him freestyling and he had a level of preternatural talent that just underlines the tragedy of everything. How did it feel to be entrusted with that responsibility after his death? You’re writing for an animated film project inspired by the music of Juice Wrld that seems a lot more experimental than your typical biopic. She was like “WTF” when I sent it to her, and that was one of those little things along the way, where I thought, “Maybe if I really focus, put a lot into it, it can get to the point where it can stand on its own.” I’m not gonna ask Kehlani to get on a song, but I did ask her how to make it better. I used to love singing as a kid - I had this amazing music teacher in school who got fired for doing too many gospel songs at a white high school, so I swore off singing for a long time. I sent her the song asking if she had recommendations for vocal coaches. You’re an uncle to R&B singer Kehlani’s son with your brother Javaughn. But you can’t put a price on personal freedom. People in positions of power who move the money won’t think queerness is a proven cash cow in enough mediums. As much as people can be down to watch queer stuff, there’s always going to be a disconnect. But the unfortunate part is that when you’re marketing to a mass audience, it’s really difficult to get the money people to believe it’s a viable business strategy. I love stuff that can live in that space. Over the pandemic, I spent so much time in my point of view, not being in contact with other people, that I kind of forgot the concept of being gay for a week. Do you think there’s a changing of the guard for the sensibility people want in queer art today? “BBC” is hilariously graphic about gay sex. This song came out around the same time that “Bros” bombed in theaters, while Steve Lacy has the No. The Compton singer-guitarist topped the charts with ‘Bad Habit.’ Now he’s a Grammy contender, on his own terms: ‘I didn’t have to change to do it.’ 1 hit, Steve Lacy redefines the rock star for Gen Z He could express a real wit on his records, and I wanted to be able to honor that sensibility. Wayne would say this laugh-out-loud funny stuff, but he wasn’t undercutting the music. ![]() You do have that line about him in the song: “You m- out of bars like Wayne when he dropped ‘No Ceilings.’” My favorite early comedian was mixtape-era Lil Wayne. I’ve been doing comedy for 10 years, and I had someone describe this song as a pivot - I don’t it see it as that. I wanted “BBC” to be catchy on a visceral level, but I’ll always be playful, it’s how my brain works. And they had a sense of humor that I was immediately drawn to. DJ Clent, DJ Rashad, those late ‘90s-2000s records that sound like they were recorded in a shoebox but go so hard. ![]() Some of my favorite songs of all time to this day are still like “ Bounce N Break Yo Back,” tracks that were filthy, like almost anatomical in their descriptions. Were you a fan of labels like Dance Mania growing up? You can definitely hear the influence of something like “ Hit It From the Back” on this track, where the punchlines are hilariously raw about sex. But it was always something I was in love with. I tinkered around, and when I moved to New York in 2016, I said I was gonna make comedy, and make music - and of course two weeks in, I ran out of money. In college, I took a film score class that gave me the basics of sound design. I wanted to learn an instrument, but that never worked out, so I developed a sense of humor. My dad was a DJ and I was around a lot of dance music growing up in Chicago: house, juke, footwork, a lot of the electronic music that’s starting to see a renaissance. What’s your background in writing music and producing? ![]()
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